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Hey! What is this! This is it! This! It’s a superior version of the Great Dragon No way! Useless! Looks strong… looks strong Looks strong! Looks strong… Oh… heh heh… I’ve recently started to understand Kan’s methods I see right through you This is strong! God! Can I delete this archive? Isn’t it the strongest among the instant death types? It’s incredibly strong… oh… heh heh… Weak Dragon and Medium Dragon can trick some 6-frame moves and trick Lily’s 4-frame moves The 5-frame moves that can be tricked include Ryu, Ken, Luke, Akuma, Cammy, Chun-Li, Terry, Mai, and Elena. I’m researching them Why? Well, for now, let’s go with Ryu Well, it’s fine with Ken… I see It’s limited to the back Well, but this doesn’t really make sense for taking the back, so it seems like someone is coming from behind There doesn’t seem to be many, though Just make sure it’s good right there Well, but This is difficult, isn’t it? It’s a scam jump, right? I still don’t know if I should do it or not I might be able to do it with a character that doesn’t have invincible moves, but I’m not sure This time, you know… it’s set up so that you can recover one gauge with a throw For example, if the opponent’s D gauge is not at MAX For instance, something like this It might be okay if it’s around four When I go to throw, I recover one gauge, so I feel like it’s okay to cheat when the opponent is like that Well, whatever… I understand Shall we give this a try? Weak dragon at the edge and weak K consumption… weak K consumption for weak K consumption Ah, with crouching weak K consumption, if you guard at +16 or +8, I see it becomes +2 So, with crouching weak K consumption rush, standing weak P hits at +10, and guard is +5, resulting in a 9-frame fake-out If the crouching weak K consumption rush throw is backstepped, it’s minus 2 I learned this from Bon I also learned about crouching weak K consumption rush with big P from Bon We discussed how this OD invincibility can get hit, and I wondered how that works Weak K consumption with standing weak P for +8 crouching weak K standing weak P With two uses, it’s minus one, I see Crouching weak K with two uses gives +5, I see The practical value seems quite high, doesn’t it? Even though I can return that rush with an OD That being said, Hmm… well, there seem to be quite a few situations where this could be useful, but I talked about it with Bon… hmm… I wonder how it really is… could this be it? Wait a minute… let’s make it random It’s easy to confirm, isn’t it? This confirmation, if it’s simple, then here… but I see, is it better to just go with this? I see… Well, well, well, well, they said this throw really works in actual combat What? After the Backstage Long Kick M Hundred Demons Attack, wait until the opponent gets up LOL! Ah! I got it! It was pretty confusing, but I understand now So that’s what you mean Isn’t it? You can’t even do a side switch And this isn’t a 6 major K, it’s a 4, right? It means right there, doesn’t it? If you take a passive stance on this, it’s definitely not good, right? Hmm Hmm… it’s not good, right? Absolutely not Ah! I see! I see! Just a moment… Ah, I see… so wait a minute, you’re going to throw, right? If you throw, can you do judo? No, you can’t… if you can’t, that’s not good Well then, this is fine, right? Yeah In that case, this is good, isn’t it! Right? Brother Kan… he’s not here He was introduced at Kawano’s place today It’s a swap combo Seeing that, Impact Panic Jump Heavy Punch Rush Medium Punch Target Combo Dragon Forward Step Close +5, normal characters will be delayed, but large characters will use Jump Heavy Punch Overall the fastest… it will depend on the difficulty level By the way, you know… Basically, this was sent from Yone, and Yone said, ‘Isn’t this strong?’ and sent it to me Like this? Yone isn’t strong? I was told it would be better to practice this No… I said it’s fine to use a back throw, or rather, to be more specific, a back throw is better The reason is… too far apart After throwing this, judo doesn’t start The exchange basically has no value So… this one is stronger Is there really the best one? The best part is, it’s a difficult topic to throw out there… but the downside is that the offense doesn’t continue Well, it’s not that it doesn’t continue, but… It’s just that, well, without using the gauge… The damage is moderate, and since the opponent is at the edge, it’s probably rated the highest, right? Or… there are things like this, but in the end… it’s all about the end, you know? Ultimately After you throw, judo has to start, you know If judo doesn’t start, all the substitutions are of the same value To be honest… it feels like a throw is fine, right? Well, what was it again? Isn’t there something like this? I’m using too much gauge, but there’s a chance The reason is that judo is starting, so it’s a bundle of possibilities Huh? Overseas people, Shungoku setup Ah, I see Ah, this is… but when would I use it? I see When do you use this? When are you going to use it? As long as there’s a place to use it… At this point, it’s going to be obvious At this point… the alert level will be MAX… It’s strange to do something like this, right? Why isn’t it just a normal combo? It feels a bit excessive, doesn’t it? The weak dragon can delay the great tornado slightly, and with a standing medium kick consumption, it becomes +5 Ah, right, weak… what was it again? Weak… was it weak-weak? Ah, yes, this gives +5 After the impact, there generally aren’t many good situations If I’m going to do it, it might as well be this I think this might be an option when I really have no energy left I can’t afford to take my time anymore In the sense of betting everything on judo When you only have this much stamina, I think it’s totally fine if you have some leeway in the D gauge I think it’s completely valid to go on a streak of just judo from here and aim to win 56 times I think so, but I’ve never done it This combo is mine Impact Live Rush During the delay, P-target combo with the dragon… close contact with the rush Oh, it’s close contact with the rush It’s crowded during rush hour, isn’t it? Hmm, but you know… I keep saying this, It doesn’t make sense to say that judo doesn’t start with throwing Right, that’s the point, it doesn’t make sense In the first place, we’re doing the swap combo to improve the situation If the situation is worse than this throw and that, then there’s not much point in doing it If you’re prioritizing damage, a regular combo is better This situation isn’t really any different, is it? After this, throwing it in this situation… This… throwing it after this doesn’t really change the situation, does it? Well, this one is stronger, but… Of course this one is stronger, but it’s not like it’s at the level of sacrificing damage or sacrificing gauge… Then how about this one? This is really amazing after all I use three of them, though I usually go with this one, though Generally, I tend to go with this, but from here… for example, this is almost the same situation, so I guess this is fine too? It seems like you’re often using the weak dragon’s great rising dragon, but is that better than the great tornado hold in terms of the situation? When it comes to the situation, I mean, the great dragon is better Well, it doesn’t really change much The important thing is Whether judo begins after the throw is everything If judo only starts with the Great Dragon, then I’ll go with the Great Dragon But if judo can start with the Weak Dragon Rising Dragon, then I’ll choose that because it has higher power and builds up the gauge faster; however, the Great Dragon has a significantly better carry potential If you think judo only starts with a big dragon, then the story is about making it a big dragon This is where judo begins And… with this, well, I guess this is fine too This is where judo starts, right? In situations like this, we choose this because the damage is high For example, in this situation, the throw doesn’t reach, so judo doesn’t start But with the big dragon… ah, even with the big dragon, it’s a bit tough… it’s tough even with the big dragon Is it like this in this case? Rushdown pressure… basically, when it’s far, use the big dragon… and the medium dragon… In this case, the middle dragon is better Without a gauge, the pressure starts Without a gauge, the pressure started and then I was thrown, it was judo Ah, then Nakaryu is the correct answer At this position, if you throw, Judo will start, so it’s Nakaryu Dairyū probably won’t be effective for throwing That’s the kind of feeling I use to differentiate I don’t think it’s going to be heavy… but could it be? There might be a chance with Zangi There might be a chance with Zangi, but… Well… basically, I think it’s probably fine to go with the medium dragon Yes Well then, is it okay to move on to the next? Is this about the right amount of weapons? Ah, what about Kan? The vertical strong punch rush and standing weak punch rush use two bars for the strong dragon punch, so it’s a bit questionable Sorry, but I don’t really understand what it’s for Are you waiting for Kan-nii? It’s easy to understand against Cammy OD Shakuka 4 big K corner back impact switch Ah, wait! Well then, Kan-nii, please wait a moment Huh? Wait a minute… Huh? How do you do it? Isn’t it difficult? This looks really hard Is this going to be a swap? Can it work with big characters? It seems like big characters won’t work… somehow… Which one should I input? The big dragon doesn’t fit… only the rising dragon fits It’s a bit difficult… Ah, judo is about to start~ Wait a moment for this This might be a good idea If this is perfect, it would be strong Ah… wait… what is this!!! Hey! What is this! It’s here! It’s really here! This is it! This! This… no, no, no… this is it! Can’t we do something like a mid-dragon rise? Ah, this will probably be easy once I get used to it Hmm, once you get used to it, this is probably easy, right? This is pretty strong! Huh? This is strong! This is strong, isn’t it? More than the Great Dragon Well, the Great Dragon is easier, but I might end up making it a bit like the Great Dragon It’s difficult… but I guess it’s just a matter of getting used to it This is it This is a superior version of the Great Dragon It’s kind of my first time I think this is worth doing I might have seen the swap combo; isn’t it worth doing this with Gouki? I’ve never seen this before I think it’s worth doing this for the first time It’s one gauge less than this one, right? It gets a bit more difficult, though Sorry to keep you waiting, Kan-nii Where? Huh? Kan-nii’s post has disappeared somewhere… OD Shakuka OD Shakunetsu Backstep Small Wave… With OD Shakuka Backstep Small Wave, you can trick invincibility completely… you can completely trick invincibility What do you mean you can completely trick invincibility? For guard and hit, does the big punch reach from that spot, and can you confirm it? During Burnout, is it forward low punch OD wave, forward low punch? Can you really trick invincibility? Hey! Can you also trick the summer move? Look! It’s Cammy! Sorry, it’s Cammy, lol Huh? Oh, that’s true Just a moment Well, I wonder about that This is a bit difficult to evaluate Indeed, this is hard to evaluate For now, it seems like I won’t be using it much when I’m not burned out So… how many does this add up to? Pla 23 Well, Burn… um, just wait a minute, I’m in a burnout… I guess there’s really no situation to use it… No, in this game, it’s actually better to use the D gauge for chipping away rather than for combos In fact, there are times when the damage is higher that way, but this is just too much I feel like I’m reducing combos too much No way, that’s too much This is… sorry, Kan-nii This is probably a bit too much, isn’t it? Manon SA2, Lily SA3, Chun-Li SA3, Akuma SA3, Terry SA3, Mai SA2… Elena SA3 is really doing her research OD Invincible is Luke Only Guile, Rashid, Terry, and Mai take damage I see Well, this seems unlikely, doesn’t it? I don’t think this is going to happen No matter how much I like wave cutting, I don’t think this is it… but wait a minute… um… Wait a minute No… this is what happens No way! Useless! There’s no way, right? Is there? I don’t think so Well… I thought maybe if I stretched it to the limit, I could make the combo a little cheaper and finish with an OD Hadou, but… In the first place… in the first place… no way, right? No, definitely not… In an invincible matchup against Vega, use corner OD Shakuka, then standing heavy punch into big Shakuka Creating +40, it’s a 7-frame fake out Here, the jump small punch fake becomes +3, so Shungoku can’t jump after the blackout It looks strong… if it doesn’t break, it will be half reduced It looks strong! It looks strong… oh, heh heh… you know, I’ve been figuring things out recently I’ve been figuring things out recently Kan-nii, huh? At first, I’m not very confident Draw weapons So you’re saving the main event for later, huh? I’ve recently started to understand Kan’s way of doing things So… you want me to say, ‘This is strong!’ right? I see right through you And I dare say, This is strong! This is strong! LOL This is strong! LOL Huh? And also… huh? Wait, I just found out that Jump Small P doesn’t have scaling Jump small moves don’t have scaling I was wondering why it’s 5000 This route is strong! Huh? What happens if I do a jump in the air with this? LOL, it’s already funny from the point of Daigo’s light Tats This isn’t ‘make me laugh in 5 seconds,’ right? It’s already amusing at this point Hey Daigo, after entering light DP from light Tats, you can crouch in the corner and make the light punch and press heavy kick whiff The second hit will hit the crouching enemy and remain at +3 That’s amazing already The inconsistency in this way of speaking From here on, a raging demon will be set That’s funny! I don’t understand I’ll give it a try, just in case I’ll give it a try, just in case From light tatsu to light DP, then crouching light punch to heavy press… what was it again? There was something like heavy press, right? What was it again? From light tatsu Ah… what is a press heavy kick or press heavy kick? Is a crouching heavy kick okay? Press heavy kick… press heavy kick Wait a minute… I’m sorry… is a press heavy kick a crouching heavy kick? LOL I have no idea about so many things, but what is a press heavy kick? Is this it? No, that’s not it… is it like this… ah! I see what you mean! Is this what you mean? Um… just a moment… huh? Huh? I want to go to the raging demon, but you know, I do too How do you go to the anger demon… the demon that goes into a rage? By the way… is it called ‘Shun’ in English, the demon that brings anger? Huh? If I crouch, won’t I avoid getting hit? Wait a minute… I don’t get it Which one is the heavy press kick? LOL God! Please teach me the heavy press kick Which one? Is it this? The heavy press kick? It feels like a heavy press It seems like a rather strong situation, but is this… is this not good? Isn’t this okay? Come on End OD wave, weak burning fire, weak dragon, weak rising dragon… Oh, really! Huh? By the way, speaking of which, if you get hit by a rising dragon fist… If you get hit… you can guard, right? Then you’re strong! Aren’t you normally strong? Well… Brother Kan Is it okay if I don’t solve the mystery of the heavy press anymore? I also want to go to the raging demon It seems like it will take about two and a half hours, so can I move on to the next decoding? I can make the press heavy kick miss Press heavy… press heavy kick Um… what was it again? I forgot to start Oh, is this it? I don’t really get it, but… Ah! Wait a minute Actually, this CPU is special and wasn’t protected, right? What? Was it removed in an update? What the heck is that! I wanted to meet it To the raging demon, or so they say So, is this a no? Well, that’s it then Well, but no… this… this is the real raging demon, you know? This one is super strong I honestly think it’s incredibly strong I think this route is really strong Moreover, This is something that can be done, right? Is it okay to delete this archive? This is strong! Yeah… wait a minute… it’s strong, lol, I mean! This kind of thing exists too, you know No, no, no, that’s not it So… this is also a thing, right? This is strong, isn’t it! So strong lol! This is strong! This is really strong! Wow! It’s so strong! Hehehe! This is definitely strong! Seriously? Could this be the strongest in the instant death category? No… I mean, it’s unbelievably strong against characters that aren’t invincible, and being able to guard while standing is pretty strong, right? No… this route is strong Of course, this doesn’t mean I’m going to die It’s not like I’m going to die without summoning a raging demon; this opponent is really strong This… is strong, Brother Kan The timing for fuzzy jumps is different because the big attack’s deception and guard stop are not the same No… I mean, it’s strong because it’s not weak, Brother Kan This is… strong because it’s weak Well, you know… what’s good is… simply put, this is the main point This is definitely going to hit you on the first try And… the fact that they’re dodging this and turning it into a tornado is insane It’s crazy that I’m missing it I mean, if I feel like it, I’ll just set it to a random height and if it hits, it hits If I miss, then I miss, and that’s fine This is strong! This is strong Wait a minute… hold on! Just wait! This… let me verify it a bit I wonder if it’s really that strong… First of all, this one I know this is coming I thought I could start with a weak attack since I knew it was coming, but I got hit by a tornado and died I got hit and died Let’s do our best to guard Little P after we guard Little P Oh, it’s jumping… damn, it’s strong? Is this really that strong…? Huh? Isn’t it the strongest? This instant death move… or rather, it’s a joke Well, I can see this, though This is pretty tough The guard is flying By the way, I won’t release from small P Of course, of course, we have it Let’s guard against the tornado Let’s guard against the tornado It seems quite strong to fly at the timing of the tornado guard If the dodge instant death works against that, No, this whiff is… no… it’s strong… incredibly strong… after a small P guard, you shouldn’t be able to jump after the blackout Ah, no… I’m already reading and jumping, so this is… incredibly strong This is definitely going to the treasure vault Congratulations, Kan brother! Thank you very much I was abandoned by Kan Well then, is this the end of the weapons?
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