【調整がもうわかんない】メーカーが管理できないよ ウメハラ モダンダメージ80%だったら スト6ライブ雑談

【調整がもうわかんない】メーカーが管理できないよ ウメハラ モダンダメージ80%だったら スト6ライブ雑談

It’s a huge bias, but Modern Akuma has a lot of wireless connections, lol Bring the M Akuma player here That’s just too harsh; it’s a dud Modern After a little more time passes, won’t everyone be playing M, or something like that? Maybe adjustments and such I think it’s going to turn into a game of chance Isn’t Daigo’s manga coming out soon? It’s already out I’m a beginner in fighting games and I’ve started using M Gouki, but how is M Gouki? Please stop I think it’s really tough not having crouching medium punch with Gouki right now I don’t really care about overheads and such It’s a style issue, or rather, a matter of style I think it’s fine if it’s not there Not having crouching medium punch is way too bad for Ken… Not having it for Gouki is pretty bad too… I wonder how bad it really is? For Zangief… I wonder how bad it is? Zangief’s… you know… the chop, right? This ‘ya!’ Wait a second… um… how bad could it be? Not having Gouki’s crouching medium punch… well, maybe it’s about as bad as not having Zangief’s? Not having the chop is pretty bad, right? This… maybe it’s about as bad as crouching medium punch diagonally forward? Is it as bad as not having Vega’s mine? Hmm… maybe that’s an exaggeration? It’s like standing at bat without a bat That’s an exaggeration. If I were to say it in Ken’s terms… um, let me think, in Ken’s terms… Isn’t it like standing in the middle? Is that an exaggeration? Ken… hmm… that might be an exaggeration, but I think it’s at this level It’s about Ken’s standing medium punch, right? In terms of level, it’s at the level of Luke’s crouching medium punch Well, that’s true Juri’s standing medium punch… Ah, I don’t use Juri, so I don’t really know Hmm, anyway, it’s quite… quite something Mariza’s standing medium punch Hmm… is that about it? Anyway… it’s really bad Do you have any recommendations for M? So, um… Ed? Maybe Ed, Cammy, and Chun-Li, something like that? Probably Oh, and is it true that Lily and Luke are also like that? Is Ken like that too? Maybe Blanka? M Rashid Ah, there are quite a few people with points, right? What was it again? Giraffe… huh? Something like that? Was it something like a plodding giraffe? Honda also has M It’s a huge bias, but there are a lot of wireless players using Modern Akuma, lol… I mean, quite a few No, there are a lot There are many It’s really true, lol! Is it really true? lol lol It’s definitely a lot, right? lol It really is a lot Also, you know… it’s crazy that Gouki doesn’t have a crouching medium punch What was it again? The Hyakki Shuu… is it only the medium version? The fact that the Hyakki Shuu only has the medium version is seriously crazy When playing matches wirelessly, does it bother you? Oh, Tsubakuro-san Hmm… well, it does make me curious I can totally do it, though Is it really just the middle burning fire? Huh? No way, right? That’s a lie, right? Huh? LOL, seriously, go get the M Gouki representative. Seriously, go get the M Gouki representative That’s too harsh That’s pretty rough… If anything, you know, As long as it’s big, that’s all that matters Well, to be honest, I actually want the inside too I want the weak one as well, but that’s the worst If I were told I could only give one, it would definitely be the big one That’s cool… there’s no crouching involved They say they’re giving it 100% only during the blazing fire Yeah, that’s really true There’s a big P, after all That’s boring That’s really terrible It’s really a total miss, isn’t it? That’s just a bit too harsh No, I mean… was it yesterday? I mentioned it yesterday or something If there’s a one-button instant death, that might be okay It might be possible to play it off as that kind of character, but it’s a bit harsh… If you’re going to implement the Great Kongou, you have to remove the Great Tornado Wow… this is troubling… But I wonder if it will really become a dragon? Conversely, Ryu only has the tornado in the middle If everyone could use all the techniques, they’d probably just think modern is fine… I think I had one idea Modern doesn’t have ideas like 90% damage… I think there were techniques during development that we didn’t reduce… but if we did that… it wouldn’t feel refreshing, right? Combos can completely stop decreasing By the way… I wonder if that’s strong? All damage is at 90%, you know Do you think it’s strong if it doesn’t reduce the moves? What about 80%? 80% is definitely weak, right? Weak? That just makes it good enough for classic play No, no, it’s because there’s a one-button option By the way… um… ZERO3 is an Oricon game, but V-ism is… 0.8 times? 0.8 times means 80%, right? Well… I mean… because Oricon is too strong, even at 0.8, V is overwhelmingly stronger Absolutely Of course, V is overwhelmingly stronger, it’s not even comparable It’s because Oricon is too strong So, whether Modern has that level of strength is the question In the battle between V-ism and Z-ism, V with 80% attack power is overwhelmingly stronger The walking speed is also different Ah, that’s right There were various things like V being fast or having more techniques… but if there were all the techniques, wouldn’t there be a lack of buttons in the first place? Well, I guess I think it would be fine to just increase them So… modern… it seems like modern is stronger 90% of the time, right? No special moves, just a one-button attack… hmm… I wonder? No… it’s quite difficult… which one is stronger? Is the modern with a one-button special move stronger than the classic with all moves? Is it stronger than classic? I guess the discussion starts at around 80%? It seems like it has all the regular moves too Is that modern? Is that really modern? I wonder about 80% 80% is tough 80% is quite good What about 80% with modern and classic? Well, I mean… it’s a strange way to categorize modern and classic There’s a mode where all moves are at 80% instead of having one-button invincibility, compared to regular classic Which one is stronger? That’s the question If it’s 80%, then… that’s tough… does that mean the opponent’s health is 12,000? Um… well, somehow that… makes Gouki turn into Zangief 12,500 That’s right… it wouldn’t be like that at 80% It changes depending on the rank tier Oh, I see The lower it is, the lower it gets Of course, I think modern is strong, but the question is whether 80% modern is still strong even in the upper ranks… the legendary tier It seems tough at 80%, though… at 80%, classic seems stronger I don’t know why, but do you run into Modern in Ume-chan’s rank? Sometimes Chun-Li… Rashid… maybe… and also Blanka If 90% is strong and 80% is tough, is 85% just right? Hmm… is that about the right amount? 85%… I wonder how that would be? It’s just an impression, you know? I can’t really tell I might be completely off base, but… Oh, is Honda also here? Is JP here too? Well, that’s about the image I have I think it’s around 85%, right? 15% down Ah, it’s difficult, isn’t it? It probably depends on the combination, like in the fight against Guile… Oh, but I see, there’s a way to dodge the projectiles I feel like there’s no point in playing things like Guile or Dhalsim in Modern… It depends on the opponent’s playstyle and character, but against Cammy… isn’t Cammy just too strong? The ability to bypass projectiles, Shoryuken, and low air throws in Modern Cammy? Modern Cammy is probably really strong It’s not just Modern, but… 85% Cammy But… isn’t the damage output too low? The damage output is really lacking Well… I feel like even at 85%, the normal one is stronger… I think 90% is the threshold Isn’t it around 90%? The throw is also 80%… all of the moves, all of them, the throw is 960… yeah, it’s tough It’s tough 80% is weak, isn’t it? Sorry, but 80% is definitely weak How about 90%? That’s the feeling I get Is it about 87%? Just saying, haha, the number of reads increases—oh, but when it comes to attacking, the number of reads does increase On the other hand, when you’re on the receiving end, the number of reads actually decreases Most actions can be easily countered with a simple ‘nope, that’s not allowed.’ When attacking, the number of reads definitely increases How about 87.5%? The number of beginner classics will probably decrease Hmm, how much of a difference is there between Modern and Classic? What does that mean? The intention of the current Street Fighter 6 is to start with Modern and then switch to Classic once you get better It really decreases, right? Didn’t you say it’s not meant for beginners? Of course, it’s easy for beginners to get into It’s just… like one of those styles Didn’t you say something like that? It’s about the intention It didn’t turn out that way, but yeah I’m not saying it’s for beginners I mean, if we wait a little longer, won’t everyone be an M? I was saying something like that I’m not sure, though Maybe there are still more things to come, and if that happens… M might be stronger, but as it stands, that’s not the case I mean, if we’re saying that, then there’s definitely no way M’s design is valid, but if we’re going to say that… By the way, the meaninglessness of that Gouki is insane; Ryu is just fine Honestly, Ryu is just fine If that’s the case, Modern Ryu lacks enough trickiness There’s no mid-range, and even the Hundred Demons only have mid-range, so it’s hard to deal damage There’s no crouching medium punch Well, to be honest… um… maybe the creators have CFN and everyone is streaming on the internet, In an environment where you can see skilled players’ gameplay, we misjudged the strategies… and how to level up… A while ago, it might have been that Modern was actually stronger If it was a time when the level was much lower than now, wouldn’t it be crazy to be invincible with just one button? Well, I don’t really know, but I think that’s also questionable But I think back in the day, when there was no internet, Modern was really dominant In reality, when the rank is lower, Modern is definitely stronger But it means that the level was far higher than expected Right now, the skill of the players in Street Fighter is far above what was anticipated So when I think about it… maybe adjustments and such too I think it’s going to turn into a game of luck I don’t know how much the players can handle anymore; probably not at all… the developers So it might end up being obviously strong I hope you use JP, you know? I think it will end up having that kind of performance I think they just don’t understand anymore How much will it be stretched? I don’t know how far… how far the level will pursue, so the player is already… For example, I hope this character becomes popular I don’t know what Terry was thinking, but if you don’t go extremely strong when you think about it, you’ll end up being betrayed by your expectations I wonder what Terry was thinking when he created it… I guess he couldn’t make it stronger than Capcom characters, right? And then it ends up like that because he became too cautious It’s hard to say how far it will be developed So, I guess if adjustments could be made more frequently, it would solve the problem, but it probably just costs too much So, for example, I found a dream Oh no, oh no, I really got found out These guys really come up with some outrageous combos, so I said, okay, I deleted the dream It seems like Terry is too weak, you know? Then I’ll make him stronger, like in about a month or two If I adjust it frequently, probably I think I could create characters more freely, but once they’re released, there’s basically no adjustments… well, it seems like they won’t be adjusted after all If only Zangief has had adjustments, then it really makes you think… you’ll end up being super cautious It’ll either go way too far or not far enough

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